Posts by Christ Alone

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Christ Alone vs IsaacAustin (blood)

by isaacaustin in

the wt arbitrarily imposes a ban of 'whole blood' on its members, resulting in heartache, difficulty/delay in receiving medical care, and in many cases death.

rather than focus on the relatively new allowance of blood fractions and the utter flaws in that logic to wt policy, we will focus on blood transfusions involving 'whole blood'.. christ alone, the restrictions on blood found in the ot, or hebrew scriptures if you will, were dietary restrictions on the eating of animal blood, and nothing more.

the mosaic law forbade the eating of animal blood, as it was to be poured out on the ground.

Christ Alone

There is absolutely no parallel between the natural occurrence of leukocytes in milk and use of leukocytes derived directly from blood.

God’s law did not apply to white blood cells in milk or blood in meat, but we cannot say the same for WBC which have simply been separated from blood. They have not become something else which was approved for consumption but are still functioning exactly as within blood. Jehovah’s Witnesses take great pains to obey God’s prohibitions and avoid any part of blood which can still be viewed as blood. The leukocytes found in mothers milk can in no way be considered blood. However, if a servant of Jehovah God was to consider the leukocytes in the mothers milk as blood, then it WOULD be wrong for them to let their baby partake.

But the whole intent of those who denounce the use of fractions is to excuse their disobeying Jehovah God's clear prohibition of blood. How hypocritical for someone to criticize Witnesses’ allowing others the freedom freely make their own choice regarding fractions while they are deliberately disobeying God’s command to “abstain from blood.” Jehovah's TRUE CHRISTIAN WITNESSES love freedom! We give freedom to all!!!

So again, we do not even have to prove that WBC undergo physical changes when they are part of milk because whether they change or not is irrelevant. They have become part of something that God has approved (mothers milk)which cannot be said of WBCs which are derived directly from blood. There are several passages in scripture which talk about a baby being nursed by its mother, so the prohibition of blood cannot apply to a mothers milk.

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Christ Alone vs IsaacAustin (blood)

by isaacaustin in

the wt arbitrarily imposes a ban of 'whole blood' on its members, resulting in heartache, difficulty/delay in receiving medical care, and in many cases death.

rather than focus on the relatively new allowance of blood fractions and the utter flaws in that logic to wt policy, we will focus on blood transfusions involving 'whole blood'.. christ alone, the restrictions on blood found in the ot, or hebrew scriptures if you will, were dietary restrictions on the eating of animal blood, and nothing more.

the mosaic law forbade the eating of animal blood, as it was to be poured out on the ground.

Christ Alone

Again, both of these statements are false as some of the JW's I know have done/do both of these activities.

No matter what group you belong to, there will be those that are rebelious. We do not discredit the entire nation of Israel from being God's people in Moses day because some of them were rebelious towards God.

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Christ Alone vs IsaacAustin (blood)

by isaacaustin in

the wt arbitrarily imposes a ban of 'whole blood' on its members, resulting in heartache, difficulty/delay in receiving medical care, and in many cases death.

rather than focus on the relatively new allowance of blood fractions and the utter flaws in that logic to wt policy, we will focus on blood transfusions involving 'whole blood'.. christ alone, the restrictions on blood found in the ot, or hebrew scriptures if you will, were dietary restrictions on the eating of animal blood, and nothing more.

the mosaic law forbade the eating of animal blood, as it was to be poured out on the ground.

Christ Alone

Heaven, the SINGLE word "love" appears 314 times. But it is connected with other words, and hence, is in the Bible more than "Blood"

the word - love - appears 314 times
the word - love's - appears once
the word - loved - appears 98 times
the word - lovedst - appears twice
the word - lovely - appears 4 times
the word - lover - appears 4 times
the word - lovers - appears 23 times
the word - loves - appears twice
the word - lovest - appears 12 times
the word - loveth - appears 65 times
the word - loving - appears 3 times
the word - lovingkindness - appears 26 times
the word - lovingkindnesses - appears 4 times

In the NIV, blood is mentioned 389 times.

But this shows how important the sacredness of blood is to the Most High Almighty Everlasting Lord of the Holy One of Israel, Jehovah of Armies.

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New JW Apologist here

by Christ Alone in

i was a jw for a lot of years, like many of you.

i wanted to try an experiment and try out my jw apologist chops.

since we have such a hard time finding a jw apologist that can argue well, i thought i'd give it a whirl.

Christ Alone

My hunger disappeared invisibly by eating your visible hamburger.

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Christ Alone vs IsaacAustin (blood)

by isaacaustin in

the wt arbitrarily imposes a ban of 'whole blood' on its members, resulting in heartache, difficulty/delay in receiving medical care, and in many cases death.

rather than focus on the relatively new allowance of blood fractions and the utter flaws in that logic to wt policy, we will focus on blood transfusions involving 'whole blood'.. christ alone, the restrictions on blood found in the ot, or hebrew scriptures if you will, were dietary restrictions on the eating of animal blood, and nothing more.

the mosaic law forbade the eating of animal blood, as it was to be poured out on the ground.

Christ Alone

Jehovah's Witness:

Life is definitely a gift from Jehovah God. It is something to be treasured. We, as Jehovah's Witnesses, show the utmost respect for our life and our bodies. For example, we refuse to smoke tobacco, understanding that this would be defiling the temple of our body. We do not overindulge in alcohol nor use drugs. We love life.

The fact that we want to live is evidenced by our closely following the advances made in the field of bloodless medicine and surgery.

However, the command to abstain from blood in Acts 15 was not merely a health guideline, but a divine prohibition that followed God's MORAL principle on blood.

Jehovah has consistently made it clear that we as humans are to abstain from blood. It began with his command to Noah (before the Mosaic law) to abstain from blood (Gen 9:4). This was repeated throughout the Mosaic law. He continued to remind us in the Greek scriptures.

"It ought to be observed, that this prohibition of eating blood, given to Noah and all his posterity, and repeated to the Israelites, in a most solemn manner, under the Mosaic dispensation, has never been revoked, but, on the contrary, has been confirmed under the New Testament, Acts xv.; and thereby made of perpetual obligation."—Joseph Benson; Benson’s Notes, 1839, Vol. I, p. 43.

As far as blood fractions go, each true servant of the Most High God Jehovah, must determine how he defines "blood". If a Witness views a fraction as "blood" then he should NOT use it.

There are some things that cannot be viewed in any way OTHER than blood. These would include plasma, red cells, white cells, and platelets. These WHOLE components cannot be viewed in any other way than that they are blood. However, if a small fraction is extracted from it (such as serum that contains antibodies to fight a disease or counteract a snakes venom), then some Witnesses conclude that it is no longer blood and are not covered by the command to abstain from blood.

If I was commanded by my parents to not eat the apple pie, but I went and ate an apple, would I be guilty of disobeying their command not to eat the apple pie? No, I ate something that goes INTO apple pies, but I did not eat the apple pie itself.

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New JW Apologist here

by Christ Alone in

i was a jw for a lot of years, like many of you.

i wanted to try an experiment and try out my jw apologist chops.

since we have such a hard time finding a jw apologist that can argue well, i thought i'd give it a whirl.

Christ Alone

Hey 00Dad...I was proud of my JW argument there! I KNOW they lie about their history...but I've gotta come up with something!!!

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New JW Apologist here

by Christ Alone in

i was a jw for a lot of years, like many of you.

i wanted to try an experiment and try out my jw apologist chops.

since we have such a hard time finding a jw apologist that can argue well, i thought i'd give it a whirl.

Christ Alone

I avoided certain facts on purpose. I tried to incorporate the must frustrating things that happen when talking to JWs. However, yes it was flawed to begin with. I announced myself and that kinda threw it all off. It woulda been fun to start a new account and approach it that way, but Simon says its a no no. Oh we'll...

I'm going to keep playing devils (or watchtowers) advocate for a while. Keep you guys in your toes and your debating skills sharp!

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New JW Apologist here

by Christ Alone in

i was a jw for a lot of years, like many of you.

i wanted to try an experiment and try out my jw apologist chops.

since we have such a hard time finding a jw apologist that can argue well, i thought i'd give it a whirl.

Christ Alone

Apparently I did ok, undercover. I upset a few people (unintentionally) who believed I was an actual dub.

As I stated before, most jw apologists leave quickly and we don't get to hone in on our arguments. jWN is largely preaching to the choir. No one challenges us on many of the things we have to say about the WT.

yeah, I know it was a flawed experiment. But I thought it was a good idea...

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Do we have the right to criticize Jehovah's anointed ones?

by Christ Alone in

jehovah's witness.

no one must ever compromise any of the essential, life-saving truths from god, but to truly be part of the "one body" required of christians, everyone must compromise some personal beliefs, preferences, interpretations, etc.. the jewish christians in rome were commanded to give up the mosaic law.

this was a task that was most difficult for them.

Christ Alone

Actually I had said Jehovah so many times in that post, I just had to write it again. Sort of like the guy that prays and says "Jehovah" in every other word?

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Is the WT the only true religion?

by Christ Alone in

jehovah's witnesses do not do that!

again: jehovah's witnesses do!

jehovah's witnesses!.

Christ Alone

hey guys, this clown just posted on anothe rthread that he was just screwing with everyone. I don't know what's worse an actual apologist or a wanna be.

Well I TRIED to PM you, wha happened to let you know, but you told me to shove my pm!!! Too funny! I talked about doing this with everyone before I even posted this thread! You're too funny wha happened. Here was my thread about it 4 HOURS ago! http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/242249/1/New-JW-Apologist-here